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MermaidLady
07-01-2004, 10:50 AM
To Kill an American....
You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was
actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper
an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.
So an Australian dentist wrote the following to let everyone know what
an American is, so they would know when they found one. (Good on ya,
mate!!!!)
An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish,
Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican,
African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian,
Arab, Pakistani, or Afghan. An American may also be a Cherokee, Osage,
Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes
known as native Americans.
An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim.
In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan. The only
difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them
chooses. An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he
will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs
claiming to speak for the government and for God.
An American is from the most prosperous land in the history of the
world. The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of
Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person the
pursuit of happiness.
An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every
other nation in the world in their time of need. When Afghanistan was
overrun by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and
supplies to enable the people to win back their country!
As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any
other nation to the poor in Afghanistan.
Americans welcome the best, the best products, the best books, the best
music, the best food, the best athletes. But they also welcome the
least. The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty, welcomes
your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores,
the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built
America.
Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September
11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. I've been told that
the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 other countries,
cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted
the terrorists.
So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did
General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and every bloodthirsty
tyrant in the history of the world. But, in doing so you would just be
killing yourself, because Americans are not a particular people from a
particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of
freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.
Author unknown
Pass this around the World.
Couldn't of said it better myself... Thanks to whoever wrote this
Gamma
07-01-2004, 11:35 AM
umm i'm not american...i read this through twice and it still doesn't make any sence in calling everyone an American...so does that mean everyone is a Canadian, everyone is English..etc etc...
SpiderWolf
07-01-2004, 11:45 AM
lol gamma that is basically saying that America consist of all the was listed above..
umm i'm not american...i read this through twice and it still doesn't make any sence in calling everyone an American...so does that mean everyone is a Canadian, everyone is English..etc etc...
America is the only place you will find a large people from different cultures and races bound in one land. You know what it meant stop being stupid.
that was a nice poem and thats how I like to think my country is.
Gamma
07-01-2004, 12:14 PM
America is the only place you will find a large people from different cultures and races bound in one land. You know what it meant stop being stupid.
hahhaa Canada is more of a diverse country then America...america is a melting pot...canada is a mosiac(sp) of culture :ninja:
hahhaa Canada is more of a diverse country then America...america is a melting pot...canada is a mosiac(sp) of culture :ninja:
your trying to argue that canada has more people of different cultures then america
you have too high of expectations for the ol' leaf
Gamma
07-01-2004, 12:41 PM
your trying to argue that canada has more people of different cultures then america
you have too high of expectations for the ol' leaf
yes i'm saying Canada owns the US in cultures...sorry to burst your bubble.. Canada is the country which everyone wants to live in..but if they can't, they smuggle into the US..settle for 2nd best
gg me
dont get me started on this topic...... I could be fercious. this was a nice poem merm
yes i'm saying Canada owns the US in cultures...sorry to burst your bubble.. Canada is the country which everyone wants to live in..but if they can't, they smuggle into the US..settle for 2nd best
gg me
:lol: :|
cypher
07-01-2004, 01:22 PM
When I heard an American marine might have been executed the first thing I thought was "good".
When I heard an American marine might have been executed the first thing I thought was "good".
I feel sorry for you, I really do, you can't see who the good or bad guys are in this war, you just sit back in your little residential housing watching the news judging people, and greeting bad news of your nations allies like your sided with the things the terrorists are doing.
Sorry moosie, but by that statement you simply lost any respect I ever had for you.
Nice One.
:nono: ross
apparently that guy's a muslim and was UA so if they kill them they'll probably get more arabs against them along with marines.
cypher
07-01-2004, 01:44 PM
:nono: ross
apparently that guy's a muslim and was UA so if they kill them they'll probably get more arabs against them along with marines.
well the people who are doing the kidnapping and executing arent 'for' anything, they are just against USA so i doubt they will care if arabs hate them
cypher
07-01-2004, 01:44 PM
I feel sorry for you, I really do, you can't see who the good or bad guys are in this war, you just sit back in your little residential housing watching the news judging people, and greeting bad news of your nations allies like your sided with the things the terrorists are doing.
Sorry moosie, but by that statement you simply lost any respect I ever had for you.
Nice One.
Cool you assumed and judged all that from my one line comment? As you said...
Nice One.
Cool you assumed and judged all that from my one line comment? As you said...
thats not the first statment you've made reguarding the US and the War moose.
well the people who are doing the kidnapping and executing arent 'for' anything, they are just against USA so i doubt they will care if arabs hate them
you obviously missed the parts where they've said they wanted to ethnic cleanse the region of non muslims. They are for totalitarianism ( like the taliban and Iran) and democracy is whats pissing them off.
SpiderWolf
07-01-2004, 02:47 PM
hahhaa Canada is more of a diverse country then America...america is a melting pot...canada is a mosiac(sp) of culture :ninja:
lmao man i wish i can smoke the shit ur smoking
funny thing is it was written by an austrailian.
nothing wrong with loving your country especially one that guarantees things we take for granted
SpiderWolf
07-01-2004, 03:44 PM
dont tell me u dont love ur country cres?
SilentTrigger
07-01-2004, 05:18 PM
you obviously missed the parts where they've said they wanted to ethnic cleanse the region of non muslims. They are for totalitarianism ( like the taliban and Iran) and democracy is whats pissing them off.
I think you should say, the Iranian government, instead of Iran. Although i have made the misstake and said "USA" rather then the "American government", i rest my case :squint:
SilentTrigger
07-01-2004, 05:25 PM
Theres patriotism and theres extreem nationalism. The line between them is very thin.
I think you should say, the Iranian government, instead of Iran. Although i have made the misstake and said "USA" rather then the "American government", i rest my case :squint:
yes you're correct
MermaidLady
07-01-2004, 06:46 PM
Hey Kat and Stal,
Thanks for the words on this one. As far as Canada being a mosaic and the largest, I think Gamma needs to go back to school. Yes, it is ONE of the largest but still not as large as the US. What Canadians are is more tolerant of immigrants than the US. As far as cypher's comment is concerned about how happy he was to hear about the marine, all I can say is GROW THE HELL UP!! Unfortunately men and women are dieing for stupid morons like some of you so that you can go get SHIT DRUNK. You know, you say stupid, moronic things until something really nasty happens to you or one of your loved ones and then don't come crying to any of us.
Doughboy
07-01-2004, 07:52 PM
Thanks for the words on this one. As far as Canada being a mosaic and the largest, I think Gamma needs to go back to school. Yes, it is ONE of the largest but still not as large as the US. What Canadians are is more tolerant of immigrants than the US. As far as cypher's comment is concerned about how happy he was to hear about the marine, all I can say is GROW THE HELL UP!! Unfortunately men and women are dieing for stupid morons like some of you so that you can go get SHIT DRUNK. You know, you say stupid, moronic things until something really nasty happens to you or one of your loved ones and then don't come crying to any of us.
The thing about Canada is that immigrants don't have to be "Canadian"... they are just whatever they are when they came here... pretty soon there will be no "Canadian" way left because we are just going to be a country of immigrants... im not a Nazi :)
Doughboy
07-01-2004, 07:55 PM
hehe I wont even get started over this... all I can say right now is that if you think America is more multicultural / tolerant of immagrants, then you are smoking some funny stuff.
Can I have some?
Code650
07-01-2004, 11:24 PM
first...gg merms
second...When I heard an American marine might have been executed the first thing I thought was "good".
don't be stupid ... marines bailed your british ass out of WWII as well as bailing out the french...and I won't even get into the fact that my brother-in-law is a marine in iraq...in the thick of it right now
third...yes i'm saying Canada owns the US in cultures...sorry to burst your bubble.. Canada is the country which everyone wants to live in..but if they can't, they smuggle into the US..settle for 2nd best
gg me
your brain is frozen over...go smoke another bowl...sorry...but i don't want to live in a country that can't defend itself
fourth...I can't help but laugh everytime people get down on the US...like the post reads ... who do you call when your country needs assistance of any kind...
and lastly...that was a nice poem and thats how I like to think my country is.here here bro ... here here
SpiderWolf
07-01-2004, 11:49 PM
i couldn't give a fuck either way
i can see u take all that u have for granted.. oh well
cypher
07-02-2004, 05:14 AM
cres its not worth your time :)
SilentTrigger
07-02-2004, 05:43 AM
don't be stupid ... marines bailed your british ass out of WWII as well as bailing out the french...and I won't even get into the fact that my brother-in-law is a marine in iraq...in the thick of it right now
Declaration: USA = American government
France = French government
etc
The war was a co-operation of the France, UK, Canada and USA especially during Operation Overlord.
Could USA have done this? Not alone!
Could UK have done this? Not alone!
Could France have done this? Not alone!
Could Canada have done this? Not alone!
Get it?
USA had intrest in the war, the reason for war was not to liberate Europe, it was to fight a joint enemy. USA was infact neutral in the begginings of the WW2, just like Sweden, Norway and Denmark. They did however supply arms to the UK (sold weapons, kind of how Sweden supplied metall to the germans and other things to the Allied). USA was close to sign a egreement with Hitler, it was however not done because of a US ships that was sunk by german subs (think i remembered that correctly). Then there was Perl habour, this is when USA lost their neutrality, they went to war with Japan and then later on also Hitler.
The famous D-Day (Operation Overlord) with the French, UK, Canadian and American co joint operation.
This could not have been done without the help of the French/UK agents in France in the several months before operation overlord.
Are these smilies randomnized? ->
MermaidLady
07-02-2004, 10:00 AM
The thing about Canada is that immigrants don't have to be "Canadian"... they are just whatever they are when they came here... pretty soon there will be no "Canadian" way left because we are just going to be a country of immigrants... im not a Nazi :)
I agree with you DoughBoy, immigrants do not have to be Canadian. Having said that, I will admit that at least, they should take on the "Canadian" way of life and not impose their ways on us. I just sent away to start the process of Canadian Citizenship. I have been here since 1981 and didn't really have the time to go through all the paperwork necessary nor did I really need it prior to September 11th. That attack has changed many things. However, I also felt I owed this country many things. I have done really well work wise here and even though I screwed up with a lying moron in the US, I was able to come back and get a better paying job and one where I can really use my creative talents. I came into an inheritance as well which is allowing me to do things I couldn't do before .
I just really resent these smart ass comments from these kids who have absolutely no clue as to what life is all about. Who just assume they are OWED everything and yet, cannot understand why it is that they are living the lives that they are. There are people dying so that they can enjoy their freedoms. Yes, no one asked these men and women to go out there and be targets, they volunteered their services but ultimately, it is so we can live the lives that we do ie. be able to post in forums such as these, drive a car, go to school, date, and get drunk, etc....
Mer
SilentTrigger
07-02-2004, 10:48 AM
I just noticed that i might be repelled by big threads, weird!
SpiderWolf
07-02-2004, 11:50 AM
lol, yeah i know
i suppose i do love my country in the respect that i've not been brought up like the americans here with all this crap they've been brain washed into thinking
lol n what things have we americans been brain washed with?
I honestly would like to know how I've been brainwashed. The government has no control over the news(freedom of the press) and 90% or more slams bush. About canada and US we both share the fact that our nations were both founded by immigrants so in that sense we should respect them most of which are hard working and value our freedoms. To add on to code's post the US had to face japan a lone and that wasnt any easier than the endeavors we, as in the allies, took in defeating hitler.
SilentTrigger
07-02-2004, 12:08 PM
Most contries was founded by imigrants at some stage ;)
SilentTrigger
07-02-2004, 12:13 PM
One thing i dont understand is when people say that imigrants force their way of life apon them, its you're choice!
SilentTrigger
07-02-2004, 12:15 PM
lol n what things have we americans been brain washed with?
Butey operations, tee he he! It was a joke by the way :twist:
SpiderWolf
07-02-2004, 01:52 PM
lol im still waiting for the brainwash theory that cres has
cypher
07-02-2004, 02:28 PM
By brainwashed he might mean the media since your media is not free like ours. Yours is just, ummm, well fucked up basically.
FACT: whenever someone says something negative about the USA the world wars are guaranteed to be brought up.
Also, just to explain my original comment... I did not mean it was good someone had died, I meant good it was an American rather than someone else. People are going to die in Iraq. They will be kidnapped and they will be killed, you can't stop that. I would rather it was an American though instead of Korean or Pakistan or Turkish etc. Infact I would rather it was a British soldier than the other nations.
So now I have explained that you will see your childish outbursts (omg *shock* I called you childish but aren't I the child here? *lays on some more sarcasm) were not fully warranted.
I feel sorry for you, I really do, you can't see who the good or bad guys are in this war, you just sit back in your little residential housing watching the news judging people, and greeting bad news of your nations allies like your sided with the things the terrorists are doing.
As for that comment, are you saying I am not allowed an opinion unless I have been there and done it? Are you suggesting I am not allowed to call Bush a shit president unless I myself have been president of the USA? Although you are off the mark with your opinion about me, what you described is basically society in general. If you ask any "normal" person here about Iraq, they really could not care. If you force them for a comment they will say they are against it. But these are the people who make up the world, the ones that apparently know nothing and just judge. So according to you their opinions are irrelevant.
How are the opinion polls going for Bush now? I thought people in America supported the war? I guess not now. I am thinking that is because you dont see the aircraft and big explosions on the news any more, since that is what people like seeing . USA by nature is a war loving country. The people there love to see the "awsome military might" they have and no one else does [sic]. Now all this excitement is gone people don't like the war. Shame.
I am sorry for my "smart ass comments", aka my opinion. I apologise for being young and being brought up in a different generation to most of you and having different views on life... ya.
Merm you said I "have absolutely no clue as to what life is all about". Well could you explain what "life" is? I think what you meant to say is I have absolutely no idea what life is about [I]for you (even though I do, I just do not agree with it).
Life is whatever you want it to be. I could say a good life is dying from a heroine overdose at the age of 23 after a short life of alcohol, sex and drugs. If that is what I liked doing and wanted who are you to say that is not life? That is my life. It is no less than your version of life. Why can you not just accept it and let me have my opinion, even though it doesn't fall in line with yours. Why do you have to try and belittle and be patronising? Why can you not just accept the youth of today does not have the same morals and opinions and views on life as older generations?
No matter what you say in this thread or what your opinions are, my view of you wont change. It is just a shame that some of you dont think the same.
One final thought, I love how my opinion makes me a terrorist. You may continue writing your letters to the FBI informing them that a terrorist lives in Hampshire, England and posts here.
gg
PS - I must apologise to you cres, I said not to bother and then I make a long post. I feel like I have betrayed you :( I only did it because I cant get on my PC, PS2 is getting boring and my grandparents are here.
PPS - Some of you would love a conversation with my grandad. I learn a new racial slur each time he comes round lol
Gamma
07-02-2004, 02:38 PM
No matter what you say in this thread or what your opinions are, my view of you wont change. It is just a shame that some of you dont think the same.
PPS - Some of you would love a conversation with my grandad. I learn a new racial slur each time he comes round lol
amen cypher....i love the views you have on things...i have a very high opinion of you.. i respect you ( not in a gay way or maybe...lol) amen
SpiderWolf
07-02-2004, 04:20 PM
lol the media is going to try to hide things from the public no matter what.. n that goes for each country .. but its ur decision to beileve what they feed u.. as for me .. i really could care less about the way.. i have my views n opinions about it .. n posting it here is a waste of time cus basically no one would care .. yah i might not like what someone says or what not but im not going to be say all kinds of bs about that person cus what he has to say.. in other words all this is bs n is going to get ugly .. but i would of loved to see cres view on brainwashed but now that ross has posted this i think he will just agree with what u said.. oh well .. gg ....
SpiderWolf
07-02-2004, 04:21 PM
oh n i think bush is a fucktard that doesnt know wtf he is doing.. n i dont really think he can add one plus one..
nuff said
Yes I agree ross our media loves to take news for entertainment value, rather than facts but it isnt being controlled by some dumb government, and like sw said they do hide things or down play things for various reasons it can be quite annoying.
two words, fox news
we have more then just fox news here and there is no obligation to watch it. 5 years too late my ass the japs were at their peak when they attacked in december.
Code650
07-02-2004, 08:14 PM
I replied to to the marine comment...if there is one thing I have learned on this site, no one changes your opinion...nor do I care to...I do find it funny how you try to sound older and wiser when replying to a reply on "your" childish comments .. and about the media I'm guessing you watch BBC for your news, that is where you hear about "the polls" ? or maybe it's from the "American" media .. you know .. the one that is "controlled" ... Unless you are stateside .. you have no idea what Americans are thinking or feeling on the war ... because as far as the media is concerned ... they slant it to get ratings .. bottom line .. the only way to be informed is to listem to people talk and read multiple sources ... anyone using just one form to get their info .. is misinformed .. sorry to the rest of you but I have to agree with them on that....
however the rest of you shouldn't generalize ... not all americans are brainwashed ... to be honest I don't believe there are enough to say that .. but there are several who are misinformed or won't listen to what others have to say due to the constant bashing we, as Americans take when there is a policing job that needs to be handled somewhere in the world ...
and just to hammer this point home .. when I hear or read of "ANY" soldier being killed, be it American, British, Korean, who the fukk ever...the last thing I'm gonna say is "GOOD" ... it was a lame comment ross ... I don't care how you justify it...and being as I have family and friends over there protecting the freeworld (yes..I typed it) ... I will "post up -- 'Don't be stupid' " .. as far as outbursts ... you never have and probably never will .. meet me in rl .. so you don't know what one of those are comin from me ...
btw enjoy your trip
[ßøX]™
07-02-2004, 08:31 PM
im not even gonna try and type the novel that i could about the pathetic ability and pettiness of some people that post here about world politics. all that i know is im fuckin tired from work and i really got pissed just from reading the first page.....let alone the others
lock the thread
Gamma
07-02-2004, 10:16 PM
just watch Fahrenheit 9/11 all this shit is in it... good movie if you ask me
instead of locking this thread I'll just shift it to the proper forum
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